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Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 3, 07:39:

Couldn't the non-conforming establishments relocate to amenable jurisdictions? I don't see how, Bedarz. Many of the things we are talking about are schools for a local community. There is a school near me started by a group of about 100 families. You can't relocate the school without relocating the community itself. Especially if the school is related to a church. Same with soup kitchens and outreach missions. The whole point is that they are embedded in the community. Furthermore, there will ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Mike T on Jul 3, 06:01:

I always thought Mike T. was pushing for turning up the heat fast enough that the frog would actually jump out of the pot. More or less. Note that, for example, I didn't advocate that conservatives make adoption easier for gay couples. Rather, I advocated that they immediately bring the full nastiness of the SJW domestic abuse apparatus to bear on gay "married couples." Even a hardened liberal may abandon this nonsense if they feel the heat too. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Bedarz Iliaci on Jul 3, 00:40:

Couldn't the non-conforming establishments relocate to amenable jurisdictions? ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by MarcAnthony on Jul 3, 00:01:

Apparently, there was discussion about adding oral and anal sex to the mandatory sex ed curriculum in Virginia and Fairfax (one of the most liberal) counties rebelled. The counter-intuitive thing (for conservatives) but effective thing would have been to sue Fairfax County to get that overturned. Do not let the bourgeois liberal and moderate avert their eyes. Go full on Breitbart/O'Keefe so they can't hide from what they defend in the name of tolerance. They want to force us to teach kids it's ok? We'll see ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Rebekah on Jul 2, 22:18:

Lydia: Just to clarify, I don't think "being nice" is what Jesus is calling for in His sermon on the Mount when He tells us to turn the other cheek. Granted, I am a niciy-nice type person by default, unfortunately, but this is not what I am saying. I think that it is very well true that the leaders of the Left - those that are initiating the bullying- have highly seared consciences - probably charcoal conscience, actually. I am referring to the rest of the public, sitting on the side lines, that is ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 2, 22:14:

Something I should have put in the main post.Morally traditional employers should seriously consider dropping spousal health insurance coverage lest they be required to recognize same-sex partners as "spouses." This will of course hurt many of their employees. The best thing they could do to offset that would be to take the resulting savings in insurance premiums and give everyone a raise. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 2, 21:57:

Public conscience is not so seared that it can't be awakened, is it? Yep, in many cases it definitely is. I was "listening" to a couple of secular guys on someone else's FB wall sort of chatting about what conscience exemptions should be allowed to Christians, and they were tossing our religious liberties around like it was their ball to play with. Should military chaplains be "allowed" not to engage in pre-marital counseling for same-sex couples? They were seriously discussing this as an open question an ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Justin E on Jul 2, 21:15:

Yes, to be clear, Martel, I just tend to ignore Mike T. when he says stuff like that. Please don't take my silence as consent. Far from it. I always thought Mike T. was pushing for turning up the heat fast enough that the frog would actually jump out of the pot. ... [More]

Out of the heart

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 2, 21:05:

Yeah, Martel, that was an interesting interview in Salon, but as you say, it's like they are captivated with the name "Christian Identity" and act like it's really part of Christianity, even though almost every word this expert was saying shows that it isn't. He'd literally say that some person was simultaneously part of Odinism and Christian Identity and the next moment say that Christian leaders need to "acknowledge this element within Christianity." I'm saying, "What??" But it was an interesting intervie ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Rebekah on Jul 2, 21:05:

My dad has been saying this all along based on what he saw in the Left back during his college days in the 1960s when he attended their meetings on campus out of curiosity. He noticed that they were bullies back then who could not tolerate dissent and nothing has changed. Being naturally a "glass half empty" kind of person, I had always hoped his analysis was more "chicken little" than true. I am beginning to believe him after this weekend. I have many left of center Facebook contacts, and the self-righ ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Mike T on Jul 2, 20:20:

Acting as 'accessory' or 'facilitator' of ludicrously sinful activity in order to make a point I didn't say anything about facilitating. In fact, I said that the goal should be to force them to bear witness to what they defend as good whilst averting their eyes because they know it's evil. The closest I got to "facilitating" anything was attacking their legal attempts to force it on us while excluding them and their kids. So question, do you think you are more likely to win by letting the left have its cak ... [More]

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Comment posted by Martel on Jul 2, 20:04:

Roger, Lydia. BTW, did you get a chance to read those articles I mentioned in the 'Out of the Heart' thread? Also, I'm still trying to find a way to get you and Eve Tushnet to debate on the CHI question. Just today I emailed Eve and asked if she'd be willing to debate with you on the subject. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Martel on Jul 2, 19:44:

As an aside, what I'd really like to see is a respected psychiatrist write an overview of mental disorder, and then after analyzing all of those listed in the DSM, and determining the criteria for classifying them as such, ask why homosexuality isn't included in the list. A sufficiently erudite outsider to the field of psychiatry could even undertake this task, and present his findings as a challenge to the official position of the APA. I mean, if 'stuttering' and OCD are disordered--and they are, per t ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 2, 19:25:

Yes, to be clear, Martel, I just tend to ignore Mike T. when he says stuff like that. Please don't take my silence as consent. Far from it. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Martel on Jul 2, 19:16:

Mike T, We need to be careful here. Acting as 'accessory' or 'facilitator' of ludicrously sinful activity in order to make a point, or directly helping along the consequences of a horrific legal outcome is definitely the wrong response. ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 2, 19:08:

I am surprised that you still speaking of sovereignty of Govts. Aren't in America, the govts supposed to be our servants and hirelings. I believe you wrote something like this yourself. No. Wrong. "hirelings"? That's ridiculous. You are surprised only because you are unable to properly read and follow what is being said. You attribute all sorts of nonsense to people here because you don't seem to be able to actually grasp what is being said. Stop putting words in our mouths. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 2, 15:40:

Yes, I should have been clearer. That is the article I did link in the post, and it does include property taxes. I don't know if everybody (including that author) yet realizes that this would destroy many of the churches in question (given the cost of property taxes and the value of many such properties) and would be, if anything, _worse_ for the churches than withdrawal of federal status. ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Nec on Jul 2, 15:33:

"At some point the left will realize that, if possible, it would be even more ruinous to strip local tax-exempt status from colleges, churches, etc., than federal, because the former will allow the levying of property taxes on college campuses and church buildings. That would spell the end for all such institutions. That will be carried out in a patchwork manner across the country and will vary greatly by locality." Not at some point. We're past that point. Time Magazine just released a screed arguing ju ... [More]

Some updates and predictions on religious liberty in America

Comment posted by Mike T on Jul 2, 09:54:

The most effective earthly tactic we can use will be black knighting the left. That's straight out of the Alinsky playbook and we've seen how effective that is. We must force the left to live up to their own ideals. For example, every time they try to carve out an unprincipled exception, we must be the first to mock it and tear it down. We must never let their "reasonableness" pass as having any authority. Apparently, there was discussion about adding oral and anal sex to the mandatory sex ed curriculum in ... [More]

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Comment posted by Bedarz Iliaci on Jul 2, 01:39:

And is your (b)--you don't comply with them.-sufficient? If (b) be sufficient, then why do pro-lifers agitate? They agitate because they care, not merely about their own involvement, but about others and about the nation. So you need a (c)--rollback of the illegitimate law. Does there exist a political process to roll back this law? The idea that better arguments are needed--this Holy Grail of an irresistible argument that would sway the liberal majority-was already untenable ten years ago. And more so ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Bedarz Iliaci on Jul 1, 23:54:

That amendment or ratification process is by state has no bearing on the question whether the states possess sovereignty. Only if withholding of consent by a single state would terminate the process, would the states possess sovereignty, as it does in the European Union. I am surprised that you still speaking of sovereignty of Govts. Aren't in America, the govts supposed to be our servants and hirelings. I believe you wrote something like this yourself. ... [More]

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Comment posted by Bedarz Iliaci on Jul 1, 23:49:

Working "within the system" when it possible that such laws might not pass is not granting legitimacy to such evil laws that do get passed, when (a) you announce at the top of the lungs that they will not be legitimate if passed, This is a self-contradictory incoherent position and makes mockery of the political process. One is not playing the game when one says that he accepts only victories. I suppose that's why you put quotes around within the system. . You realize, as much as anybody else, that there ... [More]

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Comment posted by DR84 on Jul 1, 23:24:

I have seen a number of articles from gays recently worried about what gay "marriage" portends for gay culture. They are worried that the social expectations of "marriage" will be the end of their culture. Which; of course, is open and very promiscuous. They hope that instead of their culture being consumed, that marriage can be "queered" such that it is normatively promiscuous. Conveniently, these voices did not hit the mainstream until just the days before Obergefell was announced. I think a significa ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Richnerd Dorkins on Jul 1, 23:18:

Ah, thank you. Weaver's book is actually what got me started on the road from modernism. I have an elementary understanding of Thomistic metaphysics and natural law from Feser's blog and some other books since then. But I still just don't "think" that way yet, maybe because it's been too abstract for me. Hopefully reading some political treatments will help by giving me more analogies and practical application. Thanks again for your time. ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 1, 21:44:

And, to be a little not-so-modest, this discussion: http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2014/07/exceptional_america.html ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 1, 21:34:

Rich, here are a few: St. Robert Bellarmine's _De Laicis_ (On Civil Government) is very important. I suspect that it is online in ebook form, but I have not looked for it recently. St. Thomas's _On Kingship_ is also good. As is his treatise on law in the Summa Theologica, (Questions 90 through 108, in Prima Secundae, or "first part of the second part") although it can be tough reading if you are not used to his style. _The Federalist Papers_ is worthwhile for us Americans, (especially ones like 1 ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Richnerd Dorkins on Jul 1, 20:31:

Tony, can you recommend any books or resources for further reading, please? Is there anything out there that can throw more light on the constitution (or political philosophy in general) in Thomistic terms as you've done here? Thanks! ... [More]

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Comment posted by Tony on Jul 1, 19:58:

But if your position is that it is immoral ever to question the American Law (even though it has been subverted and is used to destroy the American people) then you have crossed over to (mindless?) totalitarianism of American Conservative flavor. Since that is NOT my position, and nobody who reads my words would think so, you are attacking a straw man. to take part in a political process that has an unacceptable outcome as a possibility is to legitimize the unacceptable outcome It is one thing to att ... [More]

Sharp, Bitter Irony

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 1, 19:35:

C matt, you are right. Actually, it seems that the GOP is even worse than you say here, given what appears to be an Inverse-Bork" that Boehner aimed for last week to "deal with" the conservatives who voted against fast-track. It's not enough that conservatives have to fight off rabid attacks by Dems, now we have to do the same from rabid GOPs? ... [More]

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Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 1, 19:20:

And it's the other way around, too. Homosexual "marriage" is already increasing calls for more open marriages, and there have already been articles stating that homosexuals, by _not_ being sexually exclusive, have "something to teach" heterosexual married people. Of course there are both male and female heterosexual people out there who will be only to happy to learn this "lesson"--namely, that sexual exclusivity, self-control, self-sacrifice, maturity, and love, insofar as they have taken the first baby st ... [More]

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Comment posted by Jake Freivald on Jul 1, 16:47:

Straight promiscuity has everything to do with the moral disorder of gay behavior. Promiscuous people try to shield themselves from the consequences of their promiscuity, thereby stripping the linkage between sex and children, thereby leading to attitudes toward sex that are fully compatible with gay sex. Gay "marriage" is a straight-line (ha!) descendant of straight promiscuity. ... [More]

News from the Future, O-boy-did-we-fall-for-it Edition

Comment posted by Jake Freivald on Jul 1, 16:32:

"Ultimately, though, it will 'come out' full bore..." What Terry Morris described is precisely the Warning from Stalinist Russia that I blogged about previously, in which Dmitri Shostakovich covertly told us in music what they were forbidden from saying with words. We're midway or more through that progression right now. ... [More]

Sharp, Bitter Irony

Comment posted by c matt on Jul 1, 11:40:

We know the reality most states will just follow along - don't want to lose those federal subsidies, after all. Interesting that only Democrats have the cajones to actually Bork a candidate. When was the last time Republicans Borked any Democratic nominee? The GOP is worse than useless. ... [More]

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Comment posted by Sage McLaughlin on Jul 1, 10:35:

With no complementarity to bind the so-called "couple" together, and with no intrinsic teleology in building a stable family, homosexual acts are an expression of the desire to be perverse as an end in itself. Thank you for pointing this out, Lydia. It's very difficult to see the point, but maybe it's easier to show than to demonstrate. That is, it's easy to point to the extreme exhibitionism and the celebration of perversion for its own sake that is the defining characteristic of "pride" parades and the ... [More]

News from the Future, O-boy-did-we-fall-for-it Edition

Comment posted by Terry Morris on Jul 1, 09:58:

"liberalism is dangerous partly because it doesn't kill its host quickly enough." That's because in its early stages it hides and disguises itself as this form or the other of common sense progressivism, and goes into various stages of (apparent) regression whenever treated with powerful antidotes. Meanwhile everything continues apace moving ever-leftward, as we've all witnessed from the time we became aware enough to recognize the general direction in which we were perpetually moving. Ultimately, though, ... [More]

News from the Future, O-boy-did-we-fall-for-it Edition

Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 1, 08:46:

Not when they are radical ones as opposed to...well...my kind of moderates, NM. :-) But we won't argue about that now. My point was that the Federalist used to have more of an actual conservative bent to it (or such was my perception), but this thing might have appeared in Salon. ... [More]

News from the Future, O-boy-did-we-fall-for-it Edition

Comment posted by Nice Marmot on Jul 1, 07:26:

"The Federalist (which really is turning into some kind of weird libertarian rag) just ran a pro-polyamory piece..." This should be no surprise. As David Mills writes, and as many trad-cons have long understood, libertarians are not our friends: http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/article/libertarians-are-not-our-friends-5260549650644992 ... [More]

Let It Fly

Comment posted by Tony on Jul 1, 05:44:

Monarchy does not show otherwise. A monarch is always a monarch of some particular people. And it is the people that are sovereign. This is ably discussed by Belloc in The Political Theory of the Revolution. Sovereignty is first a matter of psychology. If a people think of themselves as one, then they are one and they form a political community. Oh, do stop equivocating. OF COURSE it is true that governments have sovereignty only insofar as they receive it from its original source. If, as modern politi ... [More]

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Comment posted by Lydia on Jul 1, 00:14:

Promiscuity is irrelevant to the moral disorder of gay behavior and irrelevant emphasis on this point naturally led to the conservative response of gay monogamy to counter gay promiscuity. That is a misunderstanding of the point concerning promiscuity. It is not that we should try to make homosexuals be "monogamous" (an abuse of that word) and then all will be well. It is rather that homosexual promiscuity shows a) that they are lying in their claim to desire monogamy, and in fact that promiscuity and "ope ... [More]

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Comment posted by Bedarz Iliaci on Jun 30, 23:59:

Tony, Kindly read "Further argument is futile." as "rendering further argument futile". ... [More]