The comments thread on my post Christianity and Liberalism below is unusual, in that it has gotten more, not less, interesting as it has gotten longer. But the longer comments threads get, the fewer people keep reading. So I want to rescue a couple of things from premature oblivion.
First, this: M. A. Roberts writes that "similar debates have been taking place at TakiMag, Chronicles, and elsewhere." He doesn't provide links, but he does quote from his own contribution to the debate at TakiMag. Here's my own selection from what he writes:
"...the daily lives of pagans [were] replete with...mundane deities and ancestral obligations. Their world was animated by a tapestry of spirits interwoven with their own family histories...familial and ancestral duties were everything...pagan religion is not only about a set of ideas, but blood. Their gods were their ancestors...it is one's duty not to let the family line, interwoven with the gods, die out..."
Whereas, by contrast:
"The religion that gave us Chartres Cathedral and Bach today produces...religious leaders from all political persuasions arguing that it's our Christian duty to accept mass immigration from the Third World and liturgies espousing the universal brotherhood of man.
"I suppose the real debate is an academic one: Has Christianity had these tendencies from the beginning (as argued by Alain de Benoist) or are they perversions of the Enlightenment (as argued by Thomas Fleming in The Morality of Everyday Life?
"I tend to side with the latter, but wonder whether these transformations can be undone."
But here's the real kicker:
"Regardless, the future appears bleak...Christianity's real growth will be in the 'global south,' and this future will not be Western in any meaningful sense of the word. I'm reminded of a recent canonization in Mexico where 'dancers dressed in feathered Aztec costumes shook rattles and blew into conch shells...'"
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I've often heard it said, lately, that the future of Christianity lies not in decadent "Old Europe" or (North) America, but in the Third World. Is there any truth to this rumor?